Finished: 01 PM Thu 18 Jul 13 UTC
the war-13
1 day /phase
Pot: 86 D - Autumn, 1905, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
02 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello all
02 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1901: yes hello and gl to everyone.
02 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1901: I'm just saying his ahead of time and I hope it doesn't happen but if England CDs early we should draw or cancel the game.
03 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: ugh england cding makes things way too easy for france, germany and russia...im voting draw/cancel.
03 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: GHOST_DESTROYER was banned: multi/meta/invalid email. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
05 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Evening folks.
06 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Guys England's missed....again. It makes things way too easy for Russia, France and a little bit Germany. I'm voting draw.
06 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: I'll second that.
06 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: cuz to be honest, anyone that doesn't want to draw proves that they need ppl to cd in order to do well.
07 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: You just want to salvage the situation because Russia basically grabbed a ton of free SCs, and you're afraid he's going to win. In my opinion, Germany and I would both probably have fared as well even if England / Italy had taken their first turns.
07 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Basically you attacked Russia, Germany, and me with your previous statements. I'm not going to let you have your way.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Um actually I attacked turkey and not russia. and france are you serious. If England and Italy played theres no telling what the board would have looked like. Both yours and germanies moves would have been different if you had some sort of english presence to consider and you have no idea what italys moves would have been. when ONE country misses often it can completely disrupt the balance of the game. when TWO miss often it destroys it. lol your honestly saying the fact that two out of your 3 neighbors are missing turns isnt helping you. You basically just showed your an amateur that needs ppl cding to win. when experienced players play, the game is drawn when even one stops. Thats what I've been doing in F2F games since I was a child.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: germany has little experience from what he himself has told me so I don't expect him to know the impact a nation has and russia knows its not ok either. I'm doing fairly well for myself so thats not the issue, its not like i'm close to losing or anything, the issue is that certain countries have an unfair advantage that disrupts the balance. Russia is allied with me and he knows this. I'm not insulting him by publicly acknowledging it.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: oh and one last thing, I've had games where I quickly got double digit centers, but if I got them unfairly I still voted to draw....
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: I said attacked with your statement, as in with your words, not on the board. And Italy ad England never had so little presence that I was able to truly take advantage of the situation. Each move I considered as if they were playing because I didn't know they would not show up next turn.

What really bugged me was that your second post in Autumn 1902. It wasn't necessary. Why did you post it? I would have agreed to draw if you didn't post that, but it was so rudely worded and hosed such a lack of concern for other's feelings that I couldn't accept it.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Damn, iPad's autocorrect is messing up my post.

I guess what I've really meant this whole time is that you hurt my feelings, even if you didn't mean to. Sorry.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: I didnt mean to hurt your feelings, but are you really not going to draw because one player said something slightly insulting? its still the right thing to do. secondly, all I said before you posted was that france, germany, and russia have it easier which ruins the balance thats all. My rude comment came in response to yours. Regardless, I didn't mean to insult you or anyone else for that matter. I'm just saying drawing is the right thing to do.

If you really don't want to draw just because of one thing I said then its debateable whether you wanted to draw in the first place. especially considering your first global post.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Germany and England, go for the draw - or I suggest we form a 5 nation alliance to resolve the issue.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: I suppose that's 6 nations looking for a draw. Germany, you should reconsider your position.
08 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Germany you are already being attacked by 3 nations and funny enough you attacked me so I haven't even responded yet.. You could literally be done in a years time if you don't vote draw. Or we can just eliminate you and then each take a slightly larger profit. I suggest you vote draw.
09 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Lol I guess Russia is in solo mode. I guess this I what happens when you play small bet games. Everyone CDs and some ppl love taking advantage.alright then.
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: now that your stab attempt kind of sucked russia is there any chance you want to draw now....
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: does germany even know how to draw
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: germany theres a draw sign below the map where it says votes, just in case you don't know how to draw.
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: yeah sorry about the stab thought it might just try it out for practice since we would probably end up drawing the game.
But i failed badly.
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: "For practice". I must remember that one :)
10 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: :)
10 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 1904: I love how germany seems to be ignoring all of these messages. second to turkey he has the worst position on this board.

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France
Bitzeralisis (112 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 22 D
14 supply-centers, 10 units
Russia
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 22 D
8 supply-centers, 10 units
Austria
zqazi2 (635 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 22 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
redvolunteer (119 D)
Drawn. Bet: 8 D, won: 22 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
amilcar888 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
England
graegraep (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 8 D
Turkey
micahgibson12 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Kropotkin's Beard (100 D)England (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
amilcar888 (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1905) with 0 centres.
graegraep (100 D)England (Autumn, 1904) with 2 centres.
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