Congratulations to xorxes for winning both the FvA and GvI 1v1 tournaments, as well as VillageIdiot for placing third in the Nexus Diplomacy tournament!

Finished: 06 AM Tue 02 Jul 13 UTC
Featured Private Confederate Grand Ball #2
1 days, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 7777 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
17 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: My vote is in for whenever uclabb is ready tomorrow. I expect he might be quite intoxicated Friday night so be sure to chat him up while he's on the truth serum.
17 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Thanks again everyone.... Now to have some fun!
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I'm thinking I'll vote unpause around 9am PST tomorrow/Saturday, that means the phase will roll through Sunday around noon PST, giving us all a bit of time to get our brains back into this one... If anyone disagrees, I'll vote unpause tonight, just say the word!
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Just unpause the f@&"g game! ha ha
I'm joking but yeah well why waiting some more, agreement was to unpause on Friday not Sunday.
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Okay, Friday it is! I've got 33 more minutes...
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Just had a look at the GR of May and have the impression that we have some pretty serious players here: MadMarx GR1, uclabb GR8, martinck GR9, Cachimbo GR12, Julien GR23, Gen. Lee GR24, Ghug GR29.
Has it ever happened a game with the top7? Or something close to it?
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Had no idea! To be frank, though, I've stopped looking at that stuff a while back. People like Zultar are always nearby to remind you that there are ways to boost your points or GR rankings, ways that say very little about how strong you really are at this game!!! And I find it just that much more fun to play the game without thinking of what it will mean afterwards.
What about you guys? Are you inclined to play for your rankings or are you also just there to play the games? Or maybe this is a false dichotomy?
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I only invited top 50 players :). I like having the GR system. Sure the game is fun on its own, but I love competition so when there isn't a tournament it puts some skin in the game for those individual games.
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I enjoy playing higher caliber players, so even though GR is not close to a perfect way to rank players, it's the best we have, so I enjoy these type of GR challenge games. I notice some players likes to GR farm by playing poor competition for "easy" solos (cough, zultar, cough), that sort of approach would bore me to tears. I play for fun, and try to get into games that minimize NMRs / CDs, and even though GR is pretty fun (like a cool party trick), it's merely an attempt to document the past, while I much prefer to focus on the task at hand / present.
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: GR isn't that important as a whole, though I do care a bit more about Full Press WTA ratings (I'm not behind all of you on that metric like I am on the general GR). It's more fun to just play the game.
18 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I think we all agree on the indicative value of GR.

I think we also recognize that such value can be mitigated by applying the Zultar strategy -- it's kinda funny how this is common knowledge, and no less funny that he will recognize that himself!

And then, there are guys like me, who don't play that much anymore and end up slipping off the charts.

That's what I mean when I say that I don't take the time to look at those things anymore. I've come to know a few players on this site I respect and enjoy to play with, and I'll be happy to be part of a game that they're setting up as I can generally assume that they'll try to match like-minded people. At the end of the day, then, I prefer the 'human touch' and the network I've built here to the GR system. It's what got me to play this game: I had heard good things about some of you from my network, had played MM, and had seen some of you participate to threads on the forum. That was enough to let me know that we'd have a good game together. Never thought to check the GRs.
19 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I am playing chess at a competitive level and as such I am very familiar with the elo ranking on which the GR ranking was created. There as well you can try to push up the figure by playing weak opposition, but then any counter performance will deal a blow to your ranking.
In any case I agree with all of you than being obsessed by rankings is not a healthy way. I also am interested in playing the game, then comes what may. Rankings is not my goal, but still I'll have a look with attention each month.
As for me I enjoy equally high ranking games and mid ranking opposition. The first category leads to very high quality games, but it also consumes a lot of energy, and sometimes can lead to a bad atmosphere due to the competitiveness of the players. Does not seem to be the case in this one though, as I find everyone totally friendly, which is amazing :)
19 May 13 UTC Spring, 1902: I keep half on eye the GR, but really only to set up games that I'll enjoy. Players in the Top 50 are reliable and understand the game. I think WebDip is very fortunate that the No1 ranked player, MM, is very open to play games with everyone. That is great for the community.
20 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: I'm more in the Draugnar camp- Gr means way more than points- You can tell because I have 14 points
22 May 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Yes. Agreed. GR is a much better indicator than Dip Points. But as more than one debate on the forum show, it's still flawed in some significant ways. I do like the way they've split up some categories and I think it was an improvement.
26 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Apologies to everyone for the lightness on press. It's been a very busy start to a very busy weekend.
26 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: It is a holiday weekend in The States, I won't finalize my retreat so we can stretch things out a bit that way rather than pause...
30 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: All right people. After four years of getting nothing but lies and being kept in my box, they've finally decided to do the merciful thing and put me out of my misery. This will be my last message to you all. It's been great fun to get to know some of you. And I wish you all the best towards the end game.
30 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Wishing you the best as well, Cachimbo.
30 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: The wish was really directed at those I enjoyed getting to know.

You weren't part of those people.
30 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Nonetheless, I wish you the best.
31 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Holy crap, Cachimbo, zultar has read our global press... And he's pissed!! Don't think you were right, he doesn't appear to "recognize [it] himself!" ;-)
31 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yea i saw that. I invited Zultar...I had no idea it was an artificially high ranking :D Well I like him anyways.
31 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: LOL, quit posting while drinking, man, this is serious!!
31 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: :D
31 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: I've discussed the matter with him a while back. I've apologized for the way I've put things.
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: #fifthplace
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: #fourthplace
07 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: Thanks everyone - well played
07 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: Thanks Germany
11 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1906: Hey guys, I'd appreciate not finalizing retreats this phase (if we have any). Phases are long enough that I don't need a pause, but I'd like to have a good chance to communicate next phase.

By the way, apologies to Germany for totally missing that message. Good game to you as well.
17 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1907: Would y'all mind a three-day pause, starting tomorrow?
17 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Looks like I am next on the death wagon.
Good game all, and look forward to having a beer with Cachimbo and Martinck on the other side ;)
20 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Unpausing Thursday?
20 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Voting unpause now, will respond to messages in the morning.
20 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Tbh I don't really mind even if you don't asnwer my message, as long as you stop attacking me)))
Think of it, Italians are peaceful romantic people, loving arts and good food. We spend our time tanning on sunny cafe terraces, and whistling at beautiful female passer-bys.
Why would be such a tranquil people be target of ugly attacks?
26 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks for the game, uclabb, you fought valiantly.
27 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: RUDE, Gen. Lee. Very rude.
27 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Good game uclabb. Always a pleasure.
27 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Good game sorry mate.
27 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Good game uclabb.
28 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: At least I got 60 points back.
28 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Lol. You can be the new Draugnar.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: Good game, Julien.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thank you for the game Julien.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: GG guys! Thanks for the game to you too.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: We drawing, or is England going to try to solo?
30 Jun 13 UTC Good game all, thanks for playing!
01 Jul 13 UTC Again, thanks for playing in this invite everyone. It did prove to be an excellent field and an engaging game. I will be writing an EOG, I hope some of you will consider doing it as well or at least providing comments, I find it to be a great way to improve and see mistakes in my press or assumptions after the fact.
02 Jul 13 UTC threadID=1026929 <--EOG

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Austria
ghug (5046 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 1111 D, won: 2592 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
England
Gen. Lee (7688 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 1111 D, won: 2592 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Russia
MadMarx (35554 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 1111 D, won: 2592 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
martinck1 (4464 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 1111 D
Italy
Julien (2065 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1111 D
Turkey
Cachimbo (1181 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1111 D
France
uclabb (589 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1111 D
Archive: Orders - Maps - Messages