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Finished: 08 Feb 13 UTC
Bielski Otriad
18 hours /phase (normal)
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
Game won by calebtarzwell@gmail.com (841 D)
31 Jan 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: I imagine that you are a rookie. You certainly play like one.
31 Jan 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: I've played for twenty years but still suck. Maths are not my strong suite.
31 Jan 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia, being anonymous doesn't mean flaming is appropriate. I'm not going to comment on whether I'm a rookie or not, because flaming people for being new is just idiotic, but here are some things I *have* learned in my year(s) playing the game. First, Turkey has no natural friends. if he juggernauts with Russia Russia almost always gets the better end of the deal; an Austrian-Turkish alliance is so ridiculous as to be laughable, and in the end Turk fleets have to run into the Italian peninsula. The Turk's best chance at a finish that isn't second place is to stab Austria and Russia early on, as soon as he has a good chance, and then reevaluate potential allies. In this game, I had an alliance with the Italian until he was essentially destroyed, with France steamrolling towards him, at which point there was no good reason to let France into the Ionian, meaning I should probably advance through the seas. Sorry Italy. Were I to play say Germany, a highly diplomatic power, I would be far more diplomatic.Second, this game took me by Only twice before have I seen Germany head south rather than east or west. it hardly ever happens; I was almost sure a stab of France was going to occur. None did, fancy that. Furthermore, only once have I run into a player as spiteful as you, Russia -- in a game as France two years ago when an Austria did something very similar. Perhaps that was you? Anyway, most people I meet don't decide they hate someone for... never having actually taken territory away from them. i made repeated offers to ally. You told me to get out of BLA. Only stupid people cede oceans bordering four of their supply centres so that they can be neutral about the remaining *one*. Sorry, I'm on my phone and for some reason I can't re-edit? The second sentence should read" Second, this game was weird".
31 Jan 13 UTC Spring, 1908: :) I'm glad that I can still surprise players. I would quit Dip the day I started playing by a formula.
01 Feb 13 UTC Spring, 1908: Turkey, I don't hate you. Please.... I just think things could have turned out differently if you had, as an example, not totally attacked me in Spring 1901. Good Luck in the future sir.
05 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Well, good game, gents. Congratulations on your victory Germany.
05 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Good game Russia. I hope to play with you again. (And I'd rather not count my chickens before they hatch!)
06 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Count your chickens. France, the only country who has the chance to stop you, lacks the resolve to do so. Again, Congrats.
06 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: I hate these games when someone can stop someone from winning and for some inexplicable reason, they don't do so.
06 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Fra could at least go for the 17-17 draw but (well frankly) he appears to be a pussy.
06 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Just callin it like it is. Later guys.
06 Feb 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Russia. I suppose that I should play my game YOUR way. Ill remember that for next time.
07 Feb 13 UTC I play the game to win and if I can't win, I try to prevent others from winning. I don't lie down and let others win. Maybe you're too stressed out at work. Good Day Sir.
07 Feb 13 UTC From day one, I had agreed to be friendly with Germany. Now, stabs are never ruled out (as we may well see here) but I have no problem coming second place. And hell, if Germany wins this turn, turkey gets back a good portion, too. Not bad I say.
07 Feb 13 UTC I'd agree with France here. Diplomacy strategy very much depends on whether it is WTA or a split pot. I, and I'm sure most others, play very differently depending on the game type.
07 Feb 13 UTC Alliance play bores me, though. it basically says "luls everyone else loses". Shmeh. Look up Richard Sharp's rant; it is far more elegsnt than anything I coild say.
07 Feb 13 UTC I have read that and many other articles of Sharp's writing. I would venture to say that Sharp would not join a game that was points-per-supply-center. Other than having the same rules, it's almost a completely different game than winner-takes-all in terms of expectations, strategy, and diplomacy objectives.
07 Feb 13 UTC I play all my games like WTA. I've always thought of PPSC as a simple way to recompense second and third places. it's interesting to treat it as a different game.
07 Feb 13 UTC Sorry what is ... Oh, I see. I tend not to go for wins unless I play friendlies. When playing randoms I'm keen for the diplomacy, relationships, and anti relationships that come from stabs. It's all part of the game. I feel sorry to have let down Russia, but then again we okay very different games.
07 Feb 13 UTC Good game everyone. It was a pleasure.

And Turkey, please bear in mind that this is just my opinion, but I think the best way to recompense second and third places is through a grand alliance to stop a solo and force a draw at the end. Coordinating and being successful in a grand alliance to stop someone from winning in WTA is just as rewarding as a good solo!

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Germany
Won. Bet: 25 D, won: 96 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
France
shigzeo (1080 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D, won: 64 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Turkey
sidek (132 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D, won: 16 D
3 supply-centers, 5 units
England
davs12345 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Italy
PKissinger (312 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Austria
moses (213 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Russia
Ranscott47 (2874 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
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